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Technical Committee To Be Reformatted

Posted By: Tod Halston
Date: Thursday, 26 July 2007, at 6:28 p.m.

USAPL Technical Committee To Be Reformatted
Submitted by jon on July 26, 2007 - 7:51am.
In the wake of the dismissal of almost the entire USAPL Technical Committee, Committee Chairman Robert Keller says that the committee is being reformatted. Other than Keller, the only remaining member of the committee is Bill Clayton. Regina Hackney, Jack Marcus, George Bartotti, and Joe Marksteiner were all dismissed.

Keller:

The Technical Committee is being reformatted to better serve the organization members, as well as the mission and goals of USA Powerlifting.

A new committee will be named shortly.

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Submitted by TheGymMuse on July 26, 2007 - 10:43am. quote
The statement was not dated. I wonder when it was made/posted?

Jim

Submitted by Regina Hackney (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 11:22am. quote
That statement went up on the USAPL website about a week to 10 days have it became public that we were fired.

Regina
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 11:35am. quote
I would like to see a Beau Moore or Micheal Belk holding a seat on the commitee, being that they are the premier raw lifters not only in the USAPL, but in the whole raw community.

Submitted by TheGymMuse on July 26, 2007 - 11:46am. quote
Thanks Regina..., I hadn't noticed it before and it is one I feel should have been placed in a more prominate place since the matter caused quite a stir.

Was this matter discussed at the NGB? It would probalby interest some what direction they're headed with this new format.

Jim

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 1:14pm. quote
good to see "red light" bill still on the committee though, that's SOME hope it won't be a disaster. know and trust that guy with reffing, he's tough BUT fair as hell. can't say i feel that way about keller.

and i still think it's downright strange what happened with the tech committee and the whole mess, it makes zero sense. can't see what the hell was wrong with marcus, hackney, and established lifters and refs ON that committee.

Submitted by priscilla on July 26, 2007 - 1:26pm. quote

TheGymMuse wrote:
Thanks Regina..., I hadn't noticed it before and it is one I feel should have been placed in a more prominate place since the matter caused quite a stir.

Was this matter discussed at the NGB? It would probalby interest some what direction they're headed with this new format.

Jim

No members of the NGB brought it up during the meeting, including Regina and Jack. People always have to assume there is drama where there isn't necessarily any. Committees get revamped all the time, the USAPL Women's, Drug Testing and Coaches Committee were ones in recent memory that went through the same thing. We do similar stuff with the company I work for all the time, it is just part of doing business.

Submitted by Putt Houston on July 26, 2007 - 1:36pm. quote
Priscilla is right, regardless if there were good people involved, rolling over the staff every now and then isn't a bad thing. (no disrespect to anyone let go) It prolly should be voted on regularly...no one should have to be fired.

Putt Houston.... now with more Bom Chicka Wahwahhhhhh

Submitted by priscilla on July 26, 2007 - 1:49pm. quote

Putt Houston wrote:
Priscilla is right, regardless if there were good people involved, rolling over the staff every now and then isn't a bad thing. (no disrespect to anyone let go) It prolly should be voted on regularly...no one should have to be fired.

Putt Houston.... now with more Bom Chicka Wahwahhhhhh

I highly doubt there was a pink slip handed out saying members were 'fired'

Putt, can you email me at priscilla@plgearonline.com.. wanna see if there is a way I can get one of those 'Monster of the gateway' shirts you were sporting at Nationals.

Submitted by Regina Hackney (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 1:51pm. quote
Committee membership is changed all of the time but it is by election or people resign. In all of the years that I have been a member of the ADFPA/USAPL, I have never heard of a whole committee being fired. It isn't drama, it is a fact.

We feel it is the USAPL's loss not the fired members.

Regina
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Submitted by Regina Hackney (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 1:54pm. quote
Priscilla said.....I highly doubt there was a pink slip handed out saying members were 'fired'

They weren't pink but we all received an email to that effect.

Regina
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Submitted by JimRay on July 26, 2007 - 1:54pm. quote

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to see a Beau Moore or Micheal Belk holding a seat on the commitee, being that they are the premier raw lifters not only in the USAPL, but in the whole raw community.

Of course Beau is the Florida State Chair of 100% RAW, and Michael lifts in 100% RAW, AAU, and IBP.
I agree that both could still perform their duties for the good of the sport.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 1:56pm. quote

Anonymous wrote:
good to see "red light" bill still on the committee though, that's SOME hope it won't be a disaster. know and trust that guy with reffing, he's tough BUT fair as hell. can't say i feel that way about keller.

and i still think it's downright strange what happened with the tech committee and the whole mess, it makes zero sense. can't see what the hell was wrong with marcus, hackney, and established lifters and refs ON that committee.

Keller couldn't fire Bill Clayton as Bill was a member of the EC at that time and is a member of the IPF Technical Committee. Bill replaced Keller on the IPF committee.

Regina
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Submitted by TheGymMuse on July 26, 2007 - 2:12pm. quote
I was under the impresssion that the members for the committees were voted in and served terms. I think that is what we recently did at the Master's Nat's. And which I remember reading which occurred at the Women's Nat's earlier this year.

Is there committees which are comprised of volunteers, as opposed to those which are elected?

It is always good to shake out the rug every now and then. But, when you have only a certain number of dedicated individuals to do the work, there is quite a difference between running any federation and a business. And when you have the number of critics waiting to pounce at each oppotunity, there needs to be a way of explaining the position taken in a timely manner instead of leaving it to fester.

In business and in powerlifting, I take every opportunity to take the time to explain to those what it is I do. Often it is because of the decisions I make. Take opportunities such as this and explain how the process works. Educate. Knowledge is power and when the membership is informed, there is a greater range confidence bestowed. The less people feel intimidated by the machine, the more they're apt to give it a try. I remember not too long ago, I wouldn't touch a computer. If it were not for the patience of a few, I would still be staring at it instead of utilizing this great resource.

There are some who know the USAPL better than others and take time to ask questions and read the by-laws. You can't expect that of everyone despite whose responsibility it is to know the rules. And then there are those who won't say anything at all yet will keep a chip on their shoulder. Communication is important and each member is as important as each elected official. It is an attitude or perceived arrogance that turns people away. Instead, give a dose of kindness and perhpas more will get involved. I'm of the opioion that most in powerlifting is apathetic in the area of gettting involved in the administrative end of things. They don't feel their voice counts and no one is listening. There must be more of an effort, especailly by state chair's, to engage the lifters and keep them involved.

I said it in the wake of the Master's and I'll say it again..., we need more Kathy Markensteiners! Here was my lifter and I (we'd both been away from the USAPL for quite sometime), and she took care of each person (including us) in the warm-up area as if each was her training partner. I was impressed with how she took control of that area plus made it her responsibility to keep the lifters informed.

Jim

Submitted by Regina Hackney (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 2:38pm. quote
Jim,

Some committees are elected and some are appointed. The Master's is elected and the Technical was appointed. Appointed committees can be fired or they can only be fired by the EC, depending how you read the By-Laws. The people who were fired were all IPF Cat I and Cat II Referees who had judged many meets. These people read and know the By-Laws. They, also, work many hard and long hours for the betterment of the USAPL. Two of us are State Chairs and there is a lot of work that goes with that. All of us at our own expense work all of the National meets and many of the international meets again, mostly on our own dime.

But fired we were and fired we stay.

Regina
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Submitted by TheGymMuse on July 26, 2007 - 3:45pm. quote
Thank you for letting me know Regina.

And like you, I was once a state chairman. For three federations including the USAPL. I will never take anything away from those who serve the lifters. Especially you. I not only saw you at the Masters, I also saw you in a video at the Men's as well. I've looked at your site and have seen the attempt you've made to engage the lifters in your home state. I applaud you for your effort and dedication to the sport. I maintain a blog where I post news letters. And I know from first hand experience that it becomes frustrating that folks don't read.

Lifters need to get invovled. And,opportunites need to be taken advantage of to get information out.

I also understand expense. While we won't compare expenses from last year, I didn't make any money off my efforts either (my wife is very patient..., thank goodness). What I got was the satisfaction of knowing that I gave it my best effort and hopefully the lifters recognize it and will keep coming back.

One of my initiatives is to rebuild the network we once had in my home state. We once were able to assist new lifters coming into the sport and keep them with us. Now, unless circumstances are right, we may lose a new lifter who has never before experienced lifitng in a powerlifting meet before. The efforts made by all have shown some progress I'm happy to report. We're getting there. Now we need to have meets at the same time each year so everyone can mark the dates on their calendars. Consistancy is a key to success.

Jim

Submitted by Putt Houston on July 26, 2007 - 4:23pm. quote
LOL! Regina is my idol. She's gotta be a kids worst nightmare when granny comes over to babysit. The kids are like "Man, granny 'Gina is coming over, now we have to sit on the couch, read books and mind our P's & Q's". LOL!!!!!!!!

Putt Houston.... now with more Bom Chicka Wahwahhhhhh

Submitted by TheGymMuse on July 26, 2007 - 4:57pm. quote
Hee-hee...,

But it is all about being consistant. When I lift, I like the challenge of being judged by the best. I feel great when I earn that white!I understand Regina is tuff, but consistant, knowledgable and fair in her judgement.

Now, there are some who are tuff just out of spite. I recall my experience in Chalottesville at the Master's Nat's. I think it was '98. The call went out that the bar was loaded. I went to the platform, chaulked up my hands and stepped onto the platform. I was then told the bar wasn't ready and stepped off. To maintain my concentration, I paced back and forth, smacking my hands together to keep the blood flowing. Chaulk flew into the air. Now remember, I wasn't on the platform. One of the side referees verbalized that that was a red light. My coach heard him. He proceeded to red light all three lifts. I was not told what the side ref said until later.

And please everyone..., I know the rule about excessive chaulk and powder!

Those are the kind of referees that give powerlifting a BAD name.

Jim

Submitted by Regina Hackney (not verified) on July 26, 2007 - 8:51pm. quote
Putt and Jim,

My granddaughters use to go to local meets with me. They would write on my bench shirt "Go, Granny" One granddaughter swore up and down that I was ripped off at a meet because another woman beat me, she did as she out totaled me but I could not convince my granddaughter of that. I have been show and tell for all of the grandkids and their teachers never believe that I was a powerlifter.

Anyway, Thanks, Jim. I try my best to judge everyone the same. And work for the lifters here in SC.

Regina

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