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Re: Rankings...Powerlines...PowerliftingWatch

Posted By: Michael Sampson
Date: Sunday, 31 May 2009, at 12:15 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Rankings...Powerlines...PowerliftingWatch (Mitch Edelstein)

I apologize if the sarcasm didn't come through in the statement about being cut a check. So yes, I was kidding you.

Mike Armstrong's system simple didn't work very well. It still required time to be spent hand entering data. It also required rankings to largely be manually figured. Simple not an efficient use of time. It had little ability to be used for data mining for other projects. I also assume that his database system belonged to him and since he was no longer involved with the project he wasn't interested in giving it away. The data no doubt was property of the USAPL, but as far as his database system I can not say who owns it.

I assure you that if we were able to continue use of Mike Armstrong's system and chose to do so we would be in the same boat as we are now. As data entry would still need to have been done and the USAPL leadership was ineffective at making sure it got done.

The issue that we have faced is that the USAPL has not been willing to continue paying someone to do data entry as they did with Mike Armstong. Due to the USAPL not requiring meet directors to submit results in any standard form doing data entry by hand is the only option. I am working with the USAPL to develop a standard template for meet results that will allow them to be uploaded directly to the database. I am also working with Joe Marksteiner of the NextLifter program (http://nextlifter.com/) to develop a method of importing results directly from his software into the results database. This will greatly minimize the need for any hand entered data.

I do not understand what you mean by pulling the wool over people's eyes? How do you feel I have deceived anyone?

I have stated this before but perhaps I was not clear enough. This "new wheel" has been finished for almost a year. The decision to build a more effective database system has not slowed down the release of the rankings for 2008. Had the USAPL responded to my original requests to start inputing data into the system in Sept 2008, we could have released rankings in Jan of 2009.

I am not associated with any work being done with Powerlines.


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